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Archive: 16 December 2004

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Shares up on bargain hunting

Shares up on bargain huntingDow Jones, Jakarta Indonesian shares ended higher on Wednesday as bargain hunters - primarily foreigners - bought back most blue chips that fell in the previous five sessions, dealers said.

Dongguan mosque caters to Muslims in Xining

Dongguan mosque caters to Muslims in XiningHarry Bhaskara, The Jakarta Post, Xining, China This is the fifth article in a series based on a visit to China, courtesy of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Munir's death and TNI

Munir's death and TNIFrom Media IndonesiaThe death of human rights activist Munir has evolved into a polemic following an autopsy that showed his death was caused by arsenic poisoning. Many legislators and nongovernmental organizations believe he was killed because of his critical approach to...

Group wants TV censorship

Group wants TV censorship JAKARTA: The Forum of Muslims urged the government on Wednesday to take concrete action against television stations airing programs that contain obscenity, mysticism, or violence.

Govt to enhance haj services

Govt to enhance haj services JAKARTA: Minister of Religious Affairs Maftuh Basyuni promised on Wednesday better services for people who will perform their haj pilgrimage next month."There will be several changes in our services and management," the minister said after a coordination meeting to...

Ubud Hanging Gardens planned

Ubud Hanging Gardens plannedUbud Hanging Gardens will be the newest property of Pansea Orient-Express Hotels. The resort, located at Desa Buahan, Payangan in Gianyar, is currently under construction. Completion is planned for July 2005.

Top seeds advance to second round at Indonesia Open

Top seeds advance to second round at Indonesia OpenMoch. N. Kurniawan, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta Top-seeded shuttlers faced no serious problems in easing through on Wednesday to the second round of the US$170,000 Djarum Indonesia Open at the Bung Karno Tennis Indoor Stadium here.

Dengue fever hits Papua

Dengue fever hits Papua JAYAPURA, Papua: Dengue Fever, which recently struck many areas on the island of Java, has now broken out in Papua, with seven people reportedly being treated at hospitals in Jayapura and Fakfak since past month.K.

'Bulan Mati' plays at Oriental Theater

'Bulan Mati' plays at Oriental TheaterBalinese dancer I Nyoman Sura will present a contemporary dance performance titled Bulan Mati (Dead Moon) at the Oriental Theater, Jl. Sri Rama, Legian, on Saturday, Dec. 18, at 9 p.m.

* Domestic crises hinder Indonesia's int'l role Page 2

* Domestic crises hinder Indonesia's int'l role Page 2 * RI signs regional anticorruption agreement Page 4 * Two regents in Sumatra named graft suspects Page 5 * Promoting pluralism through education Page 6 * Council calls for open tenders in Monas project Page 8 * Probe of FIVB corruption...

Dodging the draft

Dodging the draftBorn of a long, bloody revolution which taxed immeasurable sacrifice, it is no wonder that the words "war" and "struggle" are etched into the fables of Indonesian nationalism.The sacrifices that our forefathers endured to create this nation should forever be remembered.

Indonesia signs regional anticorruption agreement

Indonesia signs regional anticorruption agreementMuninggar Sri Saraswati, The Jakarta Post, JakartaIndonesia signed on Wednesday an agreement with Malaysia, Brunei and Singapore that might help it arrest high-profile corruptors who flee to the neighboring countries.

Where to go in Bali for Thursday, December 16, 2004

Where to go in Bali for Thursday, December 16, 2004.TB.30" 1.0" Exhibitions * Painting Opposite Attract, a collaboration show by Made Wianta and Filippo Sciascia, Gaya Fusion of Senses, Jl. Raya Sayan Ubud (Tel. 0361 979252, www.gayafusion.com), Dec. 17 to Jan. 30.

JP/13/PTBA

JP/13/PTBAPTBA to boost coal output next year The Jakarta Post/Jakarta State coal mining firm PT Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam (PTBA) expects a significant boost in its coal output starting in 2005, pending the successful acquisition of several coal mining firms.

City website hacked, again

City website hacked, again JAKARTA: The city website Beritajakarta.com was defaced on Wednesday, the third time this year, according to an official.The hackers changed words in its news articles, such as kuda (horse) for busway, monyet (monkey) for mobil (car), and Pemprov antah brantah (the...

Govt to decide on Cemex case today

Govt to decide on Cemex case todayThe Jakarta Post, JakartaThe government will decide on Thursday to propose an option to Mexico's cement giant Cemex SA in a bid to seek an out of court settlement over a long-standing investment dispute, according to a minister."There are 16 options.

Two men overdose in public toilet

Two men overdose in public toilet JAKARTA: Two men allegedly died of drug overdoses in the public toilets of a department store on Tuesday, in separate incidents.At about 1 p.m., the janitor of the Ramayana department store in Jatinegara, East Jakarta, Ade Supriyadi, found a man unconscious in one...

Firms told to adobt democratic practices

Firms told to adobt democratic practicesRidwan Max Sijabat, The Jakarta Post, JakartaThe government has called on businesspeople and labor unions to adopt democratic practices and build pro-labor industrial relations to improve their position on the global market.

Regional autonomy makes little headway

Regional autonomy makes little headway Ridwan Max Sijabat The Jakarta Post/JakartaRegional autonomy, including special autonomy in the conflict- ridden provinces of Aceh and Papua, has made little headway in the years since its introduction, not only due to the government's apparent reluctance to...

Kalla catches heat over Golkar bid

Kalla catches heat over Golkar bidFabiola Desy Unidjaja and Kurniawan Hari, The Jakarta Post, JakartaVice President Jusuf Kalla's surprise bid for the Golkar Party chairmanship has been met with concerns that his performance in government would fall, as well as with calls that he quit the race...

NGOs seek funds to help small entrepreneurs

NGOs seek funds to help small entrepreneursLeony Aurora, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta In an effort to accelerate microcredit growth, the Indonesian Movement for Microfinance Development (Gema PKM Indonesia) plans to establish an independent institution to mobilize funds to be channeled to cash-starved...

Special children show skills in art

Special children show skills in artDewi Santoso, The Jakarta Post, JakartaFifteen-year-old Maulana Yusuf's mother says that, while he may not be talkative, for Maulana a picture is worth a thousand words.

Three states warn RI of terror attack

Three states warn RI of terror attackAgencies, Jakarta/Sydney/LondonAt least three countries -- Australia, Britain and New Zealand -- warned on Wednesday that they had received credible intelligence suggesting an imminent terrorist strike on an Indonesian target, possibly a large hotel.

Dozens of concertgoers at the Indoor Stadium of the Bung Karno

Dozens of concertgoers at the Indoor Stadium of the Bung Karno Sports Complex in Senayan, Central Jakarta, turned violent at around 9 p.m. on Wednesday , damaging parked cars after being unable to obtain entry to the stadium to watch, among other acts, the performances of well-known singer Iwan...

Rupiah Rates Dec.15

Rupiah Rates Dec.15 Banknote rates TT rates Selling Buying Selling Buying Australian dollar 1 7,437.74 6,678.21 7,095.67 7,020.04 Brunei dollar 1 5,965.72 5,356.82 5,691.36 5,631.02 Canadian dollar 1 7,957.67 7,145.16 7,591.69 7,510.90 Swiss franc 1 8,517.08 7,649.09 8,125.38 8,040.

RI November consumer confidence rises to 2-year high

RI November consumer confidence rises to 2-year highSoraya Permatasari, Bloomberg Indonesia's consumer confidence rose in November to its highest in at least two years on optimism the new government will boost economic growth and create jobs, a survey said.

Milking shed symbolizes international cooperation

Milking shed symbolizes international cooperationFabio Scarpello, Contributor, BaliIn the tiny east Balinese village of Delod-Yeh, a milking shed equipped with state-of-the-art European machinery to milk 12 cows is tangible proof of how international cooperation can work at a local level and change...

Jakarta may claim traffic a trademark

Jakarta may claim traffic a trademarkEvi Mariani, The Jakarta Post, JakartaFor Pieter, who works in Central Jakarta, traveling the 2.5 kilometers from the Semanggi cloverleaf to the Hotel Indonesia traffic circle every day is 30 to 45 minutes of pure torture."But at nights, after 10 p.m.

Two Sumatra regents named graft suspects

Two Sumatra regents named graft suspectsThe Jakarta Post, Medan/Padang/SurabayaTwo regents in North Sumatra province have been named suspects in two separate graft cases.Chairullah, currently acting Serdang Bedagai regent and a former secretary to the Deli Serdang regency administration, was named...

Fuel subsidies and Pertamina

Fuel subsidies and Pertamina Sometime during or shortly after President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono's first 100 days in office, the public will likely pay 40 percent more for fuel (The Jakarta Post, Dec. 1).This news will likely cause a variety of differing reactions.

Golkar Party congress to see 'sharks' fight for control

Golkar Party congress to see 'sharks' fight for controlKornelius Purba and M. Taufiqurrahman, Nusa Dua/BaliThis week's Golkar Party congress will feature rich, deceptive and powerful people bidding to win the chairmanship of the party, which controls the most seats in the House of Representatives.

Dow Jones, Jakarta

Dow Jones, Jakarta Indonesian shares ended lower for the fifth consecutive session on Tuesday, hurt by the weaker rupiah and the government's plan to sharply raise fuel prices early next year, dealers said.

Asia to fuel new PC market boom

Asia to fuel new PC market boom WASHINGTON: The number of personal computers worldwide will increase to 1.3 billion by 2010, up from 575 million today, Forester Research, an independent technology research company, said on Tuesday.

DPD's role? Empowering itself ...

DPD's role? Empowering itself ... The Jakarta Post JakartaThe dream for better legislative representation appeared to have come true when the People's Consultative Assembly (MPR) agreed in 2002 to adopt a bicameral legislative system.

Family hospitalized for food poisoning

Family hospitalized for food poisoning PEKANBARU, Riau: Two of four members of a family in Pekanbaru were still being treated at a community health center on Wednesday because of what was alleged to be food poisoning.

Council calls for open tenders in Monas park project

Council calls for open tenders in Monas park projectDamar Harsanto, The Jakarta Post, JakartaThe City Council urged the administration to immediately disclose the outdoor advertising spots to be bartered with the water fountain project at the National Monument (Monas) park and hold an open bidding...

Waste disposal and welfare

Waste disposal and welfareFrom Koran TempoThe recent riot at the waste treatment plant in Bojong, Bogor, which left several villagers hospitalized, has aroused public concern over the fate of ordinary people struggling to make a living.

Munir's death and TNI

Munir's death and TNIFrom Media IndonesiaThe death of human rights activist Munir has evolved into a polemic following an autopsy that showed his death was caused by arsenic poisoning. Many legislators and nongovernmental organizations believe he was killed because of his critical approach to...

Cellular firms boost promotion as competition toughens

Cellular firms boost promotion as competition toughensLeony Aurora, The Jakarta Post, JakartaTelecommunications companies are readying for fiercer competition in 2005 to attract new customers amid a rapidly growing cellular sector.

Garbage bins installed in Kuta

Garbage bins installed in KutaSouth Kuta Beach Business Association, in cooperation with Telkom and Kabelvision, has launched a Kuta cleanup scheme by placing 30 double-container garbage bins in the area between Ngurah Rai International Airport and Kuta Square, Kuta.

1. ANALYS: 1 LINE, 40 COUNTS

1. ANALYS: 1 LINE, 40 COUNTS Congress to see 'sharks' fight for control 2. CAR: 4 LINES, 10 COUNTS Jakarta may claim traffic a trademark 3. BUYAT: 2 LINES, 28 COUNTS Final govt report maintains Newmont to blame for Buyat 4. ISLAM: 1 LINE, 40 COUNTS RI stuck at home with domestic crises: UIN 5.

Young cartoonists skilled in biting satire

Young cartoonists skilled in biting satireI Wayan Juniartha, Ubud, BaliI Wayan Gunasta pointed to the drawing, and spoke out in amazement."It was made by a young girl, an elementary school student. It's amazing that a mind so young could produce such a cartoon that is both fresh and provocative,"...

Send House members back to school

Send House members back to school From Warta Kota It has been reported in the mass media that many members of the House of Representatives have demonstrated improper behavior. On one occasion, for example, 24 House members from the Golkar Party gave their personal guarantee so that Nurdin Halid, a...

Kalla expects to take Golkar hands down

Kalla expects to take Golkar hands downM. Taufiqurrahman and Kornelius Purba, The Jakarta Post, Nusa Dua, BaliForget the Golkar Party's platform for the next five years and the democratic process to elect its leaders; the party's congress was practically over on Wednesday, one day before the event...

Managing waste properly

Managing waste properlyFrom Koran TempoI have been wondering if the government can draw up a regulation on the proper management of waste, which regulates the separation of organic from inorganic garbage and recycling.

Girls escape trafficking syndicate

Girls escape trafficking syndicate SEMARANG: Police personnel in Semarang are tracking down members of a trafficking syndicate who tried to force three rural girls into prostitution.The three girls were picked up from separate places in Kendal and Wonosobo regencies and offered jobs in Semarang.

CMNP to issue Rp 1t bonds

CMNP to issue Rp 1t bondsDadan Wijaksana, The Jakarta Post, JakartaToll road operator and builder PT Citra Marga Nusaphala Persada (CMNP) plans to issue Rp 1 trillion (US$108 million) worth of rupiah-dominated bonds in the first semester of next year to support the company's business expansion...

RI tae kwon do athletes still chasing Vietnam

RI tae kwon do athletes still chasing VietnamMoch. N. Kurniawan, The Jakarta Post, Yogyakarta Indonesian woman tae won do athlete Amalia Kurniasih bowed on the mat, appearing relieved and jubilant at her hard-earned victory over favorite M. Maria Estela B. of the Philippines.

PTBA to boost coal output next year

PTBA to boost coal output next year The Jakarta Post, Jakarta State coal mining firm PT Tambang Batubara Bukit Asam (PTBA) expects a significant boost in its coal output starting in 2005, pending the successful acquisition of several coal mining firms.

Asian students dominate math, science: Study

Asian students dominate math, science: StudyReuters, WashingtonSingapore students were the top performers in both mathematics and science in a worldwide survey of more than 360,000 fourth- and eighth-graders, Boston College said in a report published on Tuesday.

Dadan and Toar fight their way into finals

Dadan and Toar fight their way into finalsFadli, The Jakarta Post, Batam Seven boxers from the Indonesian squad had semifinal bouts here on Wednesday, but only two advanced to the finals of the President's Cup international boxing championship.

Government to woo potential infrastructure investors

Government to woo potential infrastructure investorsDadan Wijaksana, The Jakarta Post, JakartaThe government plans to invite at least 500 potential local and foreign investors to the Infrastructure Summit in January, where it will unveil a framework for planned infrastructure projects over the next...

Expert wants role for KPU in organizing local elections

Expert wants role for KPU in organizing local electionsKurniawan Hari, The Jakarta Post, JakartaThe government must give authority to the General Elections Commission (KPU) in local elections to prevent the interference of regional legislatures, an observer says.Under Law No.

2 x 20

2 x 20 Residents share grief, delight with Newmont JP/5/GRAFT2 x 20 Two regents in Sumatra named graft suspects JP/5/PROTEST1 x 31 W. Java workers want more pay JP/5/QUAKE2 x 27 More aftershocks hit Alor, land transportation cut off

More critical land found in Aceh

More critical land found in Aceh BANDA ACEH, Nanggroe Aceh Darussalam: Critical land within the conservation forest in Nanggroe Aceh Darussalam has reached 1.4 million hectares from the total forest area of 3.3 million hectares.

RI stuck at home with domestic crises: UIN

RI stuck at home with domestic crises: UINMuhammad Nafik, The Jakarta Post, JakartaAlthough it is emerging as the world's largest Muslim democracy, the country still has a long way to go until it plays a greater role in the Muslim world and other international affairs due to lingering domestic...

BI blasted for slow response to Bank Global scandal

BI blasted for slow response to Bank Global scandalRendi A. Witular and Eva C. Komandjaja, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta The failure of Bank Indonesia (BI) to take immediate and stern action against troubled Bank Global Internasional, despite sufficient indications of fraud, has raised concerns over...

Canadian Embassy supports anti-land mine campaign

Canadian Embassy supports anti-land mine campaignThe Jakarta Post, JakartaThe Canadian Embassy in Jakarta will hold a fund-raising dinner on Thursday in support of the global campaign to ban land mines.

1. Golkar (40) - 60 pts 2 cols 3lines (3x12)

1. Golkar (40) - 60 pts 2 cols 3lines (3x12)Kalla expects to take Golkar hands down 2. PLN (35) - 36 pts 3cols 1line (1x24)Court annuls new electricity law 3. Alert (40) - 36 pts 2 cols 2lines (2x14)3 states warn RI of terror attack 4.

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S'pore joins Indonesia in Tiger Cup semifinals 2. TAE (50) -36 PTS 2COLS 3LINES (16X3) RI athletes still chasing Vietnam in tae kwon do 3. JAPAN (40)- 36 PTS 3 COLS 2 LINES ( 24 X2) German returns to scene of 2002 World Cup final 4.

1. JAPAN: 4 X 9

1. JAPAN: 4 X 9 Japan, RI plan new investment, trade deal 2. EDUCATION: 3 X 16 Asian students dominate math, science: Study 3. GLOBAL: 2 X 24 BI blasted for slow response to Bank Global scandal 4. INFRASTRUCTURE: 2 X 27 Govt to woo potential infrastructure investors

AirAsia to buy 40 Airbus jets: Source

AirAsia to buy 40 Airbus jets: SourceM. Jegathesan, Agence France-Presse, Kuala Lumpur Malaysian budget carrier AirAsia has opted to buy 40 A320 jets from Europe's Airbus and will phase out its current Boeing fleet, an industry official said Wednesday, a decision seen as a major setback for the U.S.

Govt builds another fertilizer factory

Govt builds another fertilizer factory CIREBON, West Java: A spokesman for the state fertilizer company announced on Wednesday that the Indonesian government, in cooperation with the Japanese government, are in the process of constructing a fertilizer factory worth US$260 million in Karawang...

Churches, mosques get cash, tents

Churches, mosques get cash, tents NABIRE, Papua: The Nabire government on Wednesday handed over 138 tents and Rp 1 billion (US$111,000) in cash to 138 churches and mosques in the Nabire regency, the scene of a recent powerful earthquake.A.P.

Councillors ask Rp 12b for in-town trips

Councillors ask Rp 12b for in-town tripsBambang Nurbianto, The Jakarta Post, JakartaThe City Council has proposed a Rp 12.91 billion (US$1.39 million) allocation for its 75 councillors' intra-city travel needs next year.

S'pore joins Indonesia in Tiger Cup semifinals

S'pore joins Indonesia in Tiger Cup semifinalsAgence France-Presse, Hanoi Singapore made sure of its place in the semifinals of the Tiger Cup on Wednesday, easily defeating Cambodia 3-0 to confirm an embarrassing first round exit for host nation Vietnam.

China to be world's largest nickel user

China to be world's largest nickel user MONTREAL: China will overtake Japan in the first half of 2005 to become the world's largest consumer of nickel, said Inco Ltd., the world's second-largest producer of the metal that makes stainless steel rustproof.

Rogue on Pakuan Express

Rogue on Pakuan Express From KompasAs a commuter traveling by the Bogor-Jakarta Pakuan Express train, I consider this railway service fairly secure, except for the presence of beggars, who often make passengers feel uncomfortable as they push and shove for money.On Oct.

Rogue on Pakuan Express

Rogue on Pakuan Express From KompasAs a commuter traveling by the Bogor-Jakarta Pakuan Express train, I consider this railway service fairly secure, except for the presence of beggars, who often make passengers feel uncomfortable as they push and shove for money.On Oct.

West Java workers want more pay

West Java workers want more payYuli Tri Suwarni, The Jakarta Post, BandungThousands of West Java factory workers, grouped under the National Workers Union (SPN), staged a five hour protest on Wednesday outside the West Java governor's office, demanding that the governor raise the minimum wage in...

Government aims to limit new loans from CGI

Government aims to limit new loans from CGIThe Jakarta Post, JakartaThe government still needs loans from the Consultative Group on Indonesia (CGI) to help plug next year's state budget deficit, but has vowed to keep them in line with the country's commitment to reduce dependency on foreign debts,...

Residents share grief, delight with Newmont

Residents share grief, delight with NewmontJongker Rumthe, The Jakarta Post, Manado"I don't want to speak if it's just to find fault with PT Newmont Minahasa Raya (PT MNR). The company has been providing a job for my husband, but he has stopped working for the past two days due to the closure of...

'Maids are not robots, pay respect'

'Maids are not robots, pay respect'As most couples in Jakarta work outside the home, housemaids play a crucial role in their lives. Without specific regulations concerning domestic workers -- regularizing such matters as their basic salary, facilities and rights -- they are prone to abuse.

Bringing tigers back from the brink

Bringing tigers back from the brinkP.J. Leo, The Jakarta Post, Ciawi, BogorAn abundance of different species of wildlife are commonly found within ecosystems, and these can be very important to humans, even though this may not be immediately evident.

More aftershocks hit Alor, land transportation cut off

More aftershocks hit Alor, land transportation cut offYemris Fointuna, The Jakarta Post, KupangA string of aftershocks measuring over 5 on the Richter scale again rocked Alor regency over the past three days, but no immediate injuries or fatalities were reported.

Court annuls new electricity law

Court annuls new electricity lawMuninggar Sri Saraswati, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta The Constitutional Court annulled on Wednesday Electricity Law No. 20/2002, ruling that it was against the nation's Constitution for opening the door to full competition in the electricity business.

Lippo Karawaci to issue new shares

Lippo Karawaci to issue new sharesJAKARTA: Property firm PT Lippo Karawaci announced on Wednesday that it planned to conduct a rights issue.According to the plan, which was approved during a shareholders meeting, Lippo will issue 881,905,813 new shares worth Rp 500 (5 U.S. cents) each.

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Kalla catches heat over Golkar bid 2. KPK (40) 2x24 RI signs regional anticorruption agreement 3. Pilkada (35) 2x27 Expert wants role for KPU in local elections 4. Scorpio (28) 1x36;JP;ADE;CD; Minister says tank purchase aboveboard 5. Labor Firms told to adopt democratic practices

[b]Promoting pluralism

Promoting pluralism through educationAlpha Amirrachman Jakarta2. Iqbal -- The propaganda of silence must be rejected 2 X 30Rejecting the propaganda of silence so that truth can prevailIqbal Widastomo London

Diva Reza goes missing in real-life soap opera

Diva Reza goes missing in real-life soap operaEvi Mariani, The Jakarta Post, JakartaThe recent series of events in singer Reza Artamevia's life resemble a soap opera. She rose to fame when she released her Keajaiban (Miracle) album in 1997.

PNM to manage microcredit scheme

PNM to manage microcredit schemeRendi A. Witular, The Jakarta Post, Jakarta The government plans to appoint state-owned investment firm PT Permodalan Nasional Madani (PNM) to exclusively manage and channel proceeds collected from state-owned enterprises (SOEs) to help small and medium-sized...

JP/5/COUNCIL

JP/5/COUNCILCouncillors face uphill battle against graft charges A'an Suryana The Jakarta Post/JakartaThe 10 people who came to the Attorney General's Office here as representatives of councillors nationwide were kept waiting in a meeting room for more than 30 minutes.

Final government report maintains Newmont to blame on Buyat

Final government report maintains Newmont to blame on BuyatTony Hotland, The Jakarta Post, JakartaA government-sanctioned joint team announced its official report on alleged Buyat Bay pollution here on Wednesday, maintaining its stance that PT Newmont Minahasa Raya (NMR) is guilty of contaminating...

General faces axing over BNI probe

General faces axing over BNI probeEva C. Komandjaja, The Jakarta Post, JakartaNational Police operations chief Brig. Gen. Samuel Ismoko will face a disciplinary hearing and possible dismissal if found to have violated the police's code of ethics during the BNI investigation.

Cheating in Bali

Cheating in Bali Traveling in Bali really gets on my nerves, where ever I shop, they give me candy as change. That is cheating. When I showed my displeasure at receiving candy as change, they showed even greater dislike towards me.

Promoting pluralism through education

Promoting pluralism through educationAlpha Amirrachman, Jakarta As a highly diverse Indonesia embraces democracy, it is intriguing to reflect on how the country now deals with pluralism. One may have wondered why prejudice, self- righteousness, discrimination, as well as religious and ethnic...

Korean artists to enliven the city

Korean artists to enliven the city JAKARTA: The Embassy of the Republic of Korea will invite renowned singer and artist Jang Na-ra for the 15th anniversary of the establishment of the Republic of Korea-ASEAN Dialog Relationship on Thursday.