RI assured access to question Hambali

RI assured access to question Hambali

Rita A. Widiadana, The Jakarta Post, Washington, D.C

The United States is guaranteeing that it will give Indonesia
access to Hambali, alias Riduan Isamuddin, after it obtains as
much information from one of the world's top terror suspects in a
bid to break up the world terrorist network, a top Pentagon
official says.

Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz told a group of
Indonesian journalists visiting Washington on Wednesday the
alleged top leader of al-Qaeda-linked Jamaah Islamiyah terror
group was being questioned by professionals who had a lot of
worldwide experience in dealing with terrorism.

"I know they (investigators) are in communication with
Indonesian law enforcement authorities. They certainly want to
get help and information from Indonesia," said Wolfowitz, a
former U.S. ambassador to Indonesia.

He said the U.S. investigators fully understood the desire of
Indonesia to have access to Hambali, a native of West Java, who
was captured near Bangkok by U.S. and Thai authorities last
month.

He reiterated that the interrogators wanted to bring him to
justice, but the first requirement was to try to get as much
information as possible to prevent more of his ilk from
operating.

Hambali, who has been wanted for his alleged involvement in a
string of bomb attacks in Indonesia between 2000 and 2003, was
captured in Thailand in mid-August, less than two weeks after the
JW Marriott Hotel bombing in Jakarta. He was picked up by the
U.S. authorities and flown to an undisclosed site for
questioning.

Indonesia has requested access to Hambali and eventually his
transfer home for trial.

In a special interview with Indonesian journalists including
The Jakarta Post a day before the 2nd anniversary of the Sept. 11
World Trade Center tragedy in his Pentagon office near
Washington, D.C. Wolfowitz said cooperation between the U.S. and
Indonesia, since the Bali bombings last October, had been
extensive.

He praised Indonesia for its effectiveness in dealing with
terrorism, particularly the way Jakarta discovered the alleged
perpetrators of the terror attacks at home and took legal moves
against them.

"It was an unfortunate case that we did not consider terrorism
as a serious matter before the 9/11. The 9/11 debacle was the
wake-up call to the United States, and I guess that the Bali
bombing was a wake-up call to the Indonesian government and the
Indonesian people," he said.

In particular, Wolfowitz expressed his respect of Insp. Gen. I
Made Mangku Pastika, who led the investigation into the Bali
bombings. Pastika now heads the Bali Police.

"But more broadly, there is extensive cooperation between the
U.S. and Indonesia and other Southeast Asian countries to
disclose terrorism activities in the region.

"We haven't stopped them obviously, but we are winning, they
are losing," he said.

In regard to military involvement and assistance in
counterterrorism actions, he said that the U.S. Defense
Department as well as some elements in the government would like
to strengthen its relationship with the Indonesian Military
(TNI), most of which was cut off after allegations of TNI
involvement in the East Timor atrocities in 1999.

In Jakarta, National Police Chief Gen. Da'i Bachtiar said the
police could not use the interrogation document on Hambali,
provided by the U.S. authorities, as legal evidence as Indonesian
law does not recognize it.

"It can only serve as an intelligence document. That is why we
need to meet directly with Hambali," Da'i said on the sidelines
of a Cabinet meeting on Thursday.

From Manila, the Indonesian Police detective directorate chief
Comr. Gen. Erwin Mappaseng said Hambali organized all the
bombings in Indonesia.

"The bombings that happened in Indonesia were coordinated by
Hambali under the auspices of Jamaah Islamiyah," Mappaseng told a
news conference as quoted by AFP.

Mappaseng said that even as Hambali traveled from Thailand, to
Cambodia, the Philippines, Malaysia and even Afghanistan, he had
the final word on all proposed bombing plans of JI in Indonesia.

"Every project to be undertaken had to be submitted to
Hambali," Mappaseng said, speaking through an interpreter on the
sidelines of a police conference in Manila.