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POLAND
...th Independence Day

This two-page special supplement is prepared to commemorate
the republic's anniversary of independence day and help provide
latest information about Poland and its people, hopes and
bilateral relation with Indonesia. Opening the curtain is an
interview by The Jakarta Post staff writer K. Basrie with
Krzysztof Szumski, Polish Ambassador to Indonesia, covering
Poland's target to join EU, its transition from a state economy
to a market-oriented economy, and mission to boost ties with
Jakarta.

What's the main focus of the Polish government nowadays following
the September 23 parliamentary election which was won by the
Democratic Left Alliance (SLD) ?

Poland now is concentrating its relation with other European
partners in its efforts to become member of the European Union.
The new government plans to end negotiation on its membership at
the end of 2002 so that Poland will be ready to join EU in 2004.
The new government has officially declared that this is our
strategic process and all our sources should concentrate on this
process.

Besides Poland will continue to develop friendly and better
relations with other countries, particularly those in the Asia
region, which is an important economy, including a big country
like Indonesia.

How's the chance for Poland to join the EU?

Our new government has received strong support from the
people, including those who earlier were worried about Poland's
future entrance (into the Union). Now we can be more flexible in
the negotiations regarding the European enlargement as we have
more concessions to offer, such as the use and sales of land.

Some EU countries, particularly Germany and Austria, are
afraid that when they open the border, there will be an influx of
Polish workers. But we need to explain that enlargement will
create more businesses for the EU. And Poland is a market of 40
million people.

There were times when thousands of Polish workers migrated to
Germany. But that happened during the economic crisis and not in
good times. If Poland's economy grows like today, there should be
no fear of Polish workers going to the West. We need to be in the
EU to develop our economy.

In some instances, Poland and Indonesia have some similar
backgrounds regarding political reforms and transition towards
democracy. But Warsawa has succeeded in quickly achieving its
democratic political life. Is there anything that the Jakarta
government can learn from your experience?

The process of transformation in Poland began in 1989. At
first, it was very difficult. We might have easier situation
because our country is smaller and not so diversified like
Indonesia. But in the economic field, we also had big problems in
the first three to four years. Through thick and thin and hard
work, we achieved very good results. Our economy has grown
steadily, at more than four percent every year. And Poland now is
fully a democratic country which respects human rights, exercise
freedom of speech and upholds justice and law and order.

However, like many other countries, we still have problems.
For example, we have problems in employment. This year, there's a
little bit slowdown in our economic development. But generally,
the transformation was successful and we're ready to share our
experience with countries like Indonesia.

I'd also like to stress here that we observe with great
interest the situation in Indonesia. We fully support Indonesia's
political development towards democracy and it's our best
expectation that Indonesia will become one of the biggest
democratic countries in the world.

Poland and the Poles believe that Indonesia and the Indonesian
people, as a great nation and people, can overcome all their
difficulties and play their very important role in the region.

What kind of bilateral cooperation that Poland needs in its
relation with Indonesia?

We want to develop political, economic and cultural
cooperation between the two countries. There's especially a great
potential in the economic field. There are so many areas where
cooperation can be boosted, particularly concerning the maritime
economy, mining industry, chemical industry, heavy equipment,
road construction and electrical power station. We have good
experience in these areas. From our side, we've already imported
a lot of Indonesian goods, like garment, electronic products,
traditional goods, coffee, rubber.

The Polish government has invited President Megawati
Soekarnoputri to visit Poland. We do understand that now there
many important things happening in Indonesia but it is our wish
to see Mrs. Megawati visit Warsaw during her trip to Europe next
year. Such a highest-level visit could in some way help stimulate
bilateral cooperation in all fields.

How do Poland and the Poles see the overall situation in
Indonesia?

Naturally, recent happenings in Indonesia might create a not
very good climate for the development of tourism here. But I do
hope this is only a temporary situation and we at the embassy
here always suggest to Polish tourists to not be afraid of
visiting Indonesia because there are still many places here which
are peaceful, quiet and safe. That's why we always hope the
number of tourists from Poland will increase.

What barriers do you find in promoting better relations and
cooperation?

I think the problem is that while we in Poland are preoccupied
with our joining the EU membership, Indonesia is also busy
catching up with its economic recovery. Still, to provide true
and current pictures of Indonesia and Poland, we recently
organized the trip of Indonesian journalists to Poland and a
group of state Polish TV crew to Indonesia.

Do you have suggestions on how to boost bilateral trade?

In term of financing, I think we can solve this problem with
the help of experts from both sides. The important thing is that
the business sectors have to build direct contacts. As both
Poland and Indonesia are keen in launching the privatization
programs, their business representatives should increase making
exchange visits to further boost ties. In November, a group of
Polish businessmen will come to Indonesia.

Do you have any figures about Poles living in Indonesia?

There are about 100 people. Some of them are businessmen,
mostly importing furniture. Others are Catholic priests living in
Flores (Nusa Tenggara) and many Polish here have married with
locals and. In the old days, Polish contractors helped build the
Polonia airport in North Sumatera.

Any special message do you want to extend to them?

To my compatriots, I would like to congratulate them for being in
such a big beautiful, interesting country, and I wish them to
continue to be in Indonesia, and to be successful in their
business. The embassy is open for any cooperation of Polish
people.