Chat with Cabinet Secretary Teddy, Rocky Gerung Touches on Ethics

Jakarta, CNBC Indonesia - Political commentator Rocky Gerung revealed a conversation he had with Cabinet Secretary Teddy Indra Wijaya after the inauguration of six new officials at the State Palace on Monday (27/4/2026). Politician and activist Syahganda Nainggolan was also present to witness the inauguration of Minister of the Environment Jumhur Hidayat. Teddy was seen chatting casually with Rocky in a relaxed atmosphere, laughing together. After the conversation, Teddy shook hands with Rocky and gave a thumbs-up gesture to Jumhur. Rocky explained that during that moment, they talked about ‘ethics of care’ or the ethics of concern and ‘ethics of rights’ or the ethics of rights. “Ethics of care means psychologically demonstrating leadership through body language, not through the body itself, but through body language, there are two: spoken body language and hidden body language,” said Rocky after the inauguration. “I told Mr Teddy that he is capable of distinguishing when to display spoken body language and when to keep the psychological body language for opportune moments,” he added. On the same occasion, Rocky also had a casual chat and joked with President Prabowo Subianto. Rocky said Prabowo threw a joke by calling him still an opposition figure, meaning someone opposing the government. For information, Prabowo inaugurated six officials on that day. Here is the list: a. Jumhur Hidayat as Minister of the Environment/Head of the Environmental Control Agency b. Hanif Faisol as Deputy Minister Coordinator for Food Sector c. Dudung Abdurachman as Head of the Presidential Staff d. Muhammad Qodari as Head of the Government Communication Agency e. Hasan Nasbi as Special Advisor to the President for Communication f. Abdul Kadir Karding as Head of the Indonesian Quarantine Agency.