Elections may improve RI-U.S. ties
Elections may improve RI-U.S. ties
Indonesian-U.S. relations are poor at the moment following the
verbal sparring between U.S. Ambassador Gelbard and Indonesian
officials and the shutting down of the U.S. Embassy's public
services after receiving threats.
But Dewi Fortuna Anwar, research professor at the Indonesian
Institute of Sciences (LIPI) and associate director of the
Habibie Center, sees opportunities for improved ties
ahead.
Question: What impacts will the coming U.S. presidential
elections have on the two countries' strained ties?
Answer: It provides a good momentum to strengthen bilateral
ties because we know that with the election of a new president,
all ambassadors will be replaced. I like Gelbard personally and
we come into contact frequently, but I think he is too 'upfront'
which does not fit in well here.
I have often suggested that he tread more carefully. Everyone
knows what U.S. interests are and those wishes should be conveyed
in ways that befit the countries in question. In China or Japan,
U.S. ambassadors are usually more careful.
In the past, the U.S. always took care here because Indonesia
was an important country in Asia. Now Indonesia is really down on
its luck and it doesn't have a respected leadership. U.S.
interests are still the same as they were -- namely to maintain
its role on the international stage and leadership in the free
market -- but they used to maintain these interests in ways that
showed they cared about our history, our likes and dislikes.
So you're saying that domestic factors are to blame for the
U.S.'s careless approach to Indonesia now?
Yes, more or less. Look at U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine
Albright who is so firm (on many issues) but is always careful
when she deals with Japan, Britain or even North Korea.
Indonesia's economic dependence may have led Washington to
think that we are more pliable to its directions. Indonesia used
to be able to refuse aid when it was linked to political
conditionalities, now this ability is fading.
What kind of ambassador do we want to replace Gelbard?
Whoever is better able to convey the message of U.S. interests
while respecting Indonesian interests.
Actually, if we study recent developments, we can see how the
two countries are becoming more convergent. Under the New Order,
two interests of ours converged with those of the U.S. The first
was geopolitical -- both countries wanted stability, no hegemonic
powers in the region, and no communism.
Second, both countries wanted an open, market-oriented economy
with free flow of investment.
We used to be divergent on two factors. First, Indonesia was
at the time 'undemocratic.' Second, there was the U.S. policies
on the Middle East.
Now, we have convergence on three out of the four factors.
Indonesia today cares about democracy, human rights and we have
released East Timor.
Washington should see that Indonesia is facing lots of
difficulties in its political, economic and legal reforms, and
that those are goals that cannot be achieved in a short time.
Which of the U.S. presidential candidates would benefit
Indonesia more?
Republicans are traditionally more pragmatic because of their
realistic global outlook and because of support from
multinationals. That's why they do not tend to be overly
'doctrinaire' in their foreign policies. Democrats, on the other
hand, tend to be more idealistic and are supported by minority
groups.
It would be better for Asian countries, if the Republican
candidate won the election.
Your final assessment of current strains in U.S.-Indonesia
ties?
The major message is that Indonesia does not hate the U.S.. We
are actually a very America-oriented society with the middle
class and the younger people being fascinated by anything
American, and with our elite being America-oriented in their
economic, political, and cultural lives. Indonesia is no longer
trapped in this polarization of 'Asian values versus Western
values.' We now recognize the universality of certain values such
as human rights.
In addition, Indonesian Muslims are pluralist and moderate and
don't want to be fundamental in their opposition against the
West. Our Muslims support the open economic system and there's no
so-called clash of civilizations. If there are strains, they
should be localized.
Washington does not have any reason to think that Indonesia is
beating its war drums. But we do need to make clear that we do
not like the U.S. policy on the Middle East because of its double
standard. When Indonesia made mistakes, such as with the violence
in Atambua, the U.S. protest was extraordinarily loud, but it
remains silent on the massacre in Palestine. (Santi W.E.
Soekanto)