So just replacing a punch with a kick, then. Scumbags. Actually, it is the service charge I am more against. Can I legally refuse to pay it, if given shit service?
Wed, 28 Apr 2010
JAKCHAT/Confusion over 10 percent Tax on Food and Beverages
<I>Interesting... Because this is still on the site.</I>
Eating out just got cheaper. The 10 percent value-added tax on food and beverages has been abolished by the government and should not be paid, consumer protection groups said on Tuesday. The industry, however, thinks differently. (JG Photo/Yudhi Sukma Wijaya) Confusion over 10 percent Tax on Food and Beverages
Though the government officially abolished the 10 percent value-added tax of food and beverages on April 1, businesses are still continuing to impose the additional charge, the Indonesian Consumer Protection Foundation warned on Tuesday.
Tulus Abadi, from the foundation, also known as the YLKI, blamed the government for not informing the public about the new law.
“If consumers are well informed about it, they can complain to the restaurants for still charging the tax,” Tulus told Okezone.com.
The government adopted Law No. 42, 2009, on VAT and Sales Tax on Luxury Goods (PpnBM) last year. It states that beginning April 1 this year, VAT should not be paid on commodities such as food and beverages sold in hotels, restaurants or stalls, whether it be dine-in or takeout.
Thomas Dharmawan, from the the Indonesian Food and Beverage Association (Gapmmi), said, however, that restaurant owners still had the right to charge the VAT because the government had not issued a government regulation (PP) regarding the implementation of the law.
“Most of us are waiting for the PP because we need it before we can apply the new law,” he told Okezone.com.
Tulus, however, disagreed.
“When the government said that VAT had been erased, restaurant owners should not charge consumers anymore because it’s considered illegal. Besides, who will they pay the VAT to because the law has changed,” he said.
David ML Tobing, chairman of Adamsco Public Consumer Protection Institution (LPKSM), told Kompas.com that, “The 10 percent tax could be small in amount but that’s not the point. The important thing is, consumers have the rights to complain if they are still charged with the tax that no longer exists.”
Wed, 28 Apr 2010
JAKCHAT/Confusion over 10 percent Tax on Food and Beverages
the Globule finally admits they were wrong, and that the restaurant VAT story was a non-story ...
Consumers Break Even in Confusion Over Vallue Added Tax
Call it the mystery of the value-added tax. Or the case of the tax break that wasn’t. But whatever you call it, know that if you are waiting for local restaurants and pubs to stop tacking a 10 percent value-added tax onto your bill, it is not going to happen.
Consumer advocates have been up in arms in recent weeks because local restaurants and watering holes are continuing to levy the 10 percent tax, even though the government officially abolished it, effective from April 1.
The government passed Law No. 42, 2009, on VAT and Sales Tax on Luxury Goods last year. It states that from April 1 this year, VAT should not be paid on commodities such as food and beverages sold in hotels, restaurants or stalls, whether it be dine-in or takeout.
The Indonesian Consumer Protection Foundation (YLKI) complained on Tuesday that businesses were still imposing the additional charge despite the revocation of the tax.
YLKI’s head of consumer advocacy, Tulus Abadi, blamed the government for not informing the public about the new law.
“If consumers are well informed about it, they can complain to the restaurants for still charging the tax,” Tulus told Okezone.com.
“When the government said that VAT had been erased, restaurant owners should not charge consumers anymore because it’s considered illegal. Besides, who will they pay the VAT to because the law has changed,” he said.
David ML Tobing, chairman of Adamsco Public Consumer Protection Institution (LPKSM), told Kompas.com that, “the 10 percent tax could be small in amount but that’s not the point. The important thing is, consumers have the right to complain if they are still charged with the tax that no longer exists.”
Well, yes, but it turns out that while the central government’s value-added tax has in fact been abolished, it was replaced by another value-added tax that benefits regional governments instead of the central government, according to the Finance Ministry.
Harry Soeratin, a spokesman for the ministry, said the 10 percent value-added tax on food and beverages had been abolished by the government starting from April 1 but had been replaced by regional taxes of the same amount.
“The 10 percent additional fee charged to customers now is a regional tax, which is then allocated to regional governments, whereas previously, the money went into the state’s account,” Harry said.
There was no need for an implementation regulation to accompany the law as it had already been implemented, he said.
Tue, 27 Apr 2010
JAKCHAT/Confusion over 10 percent Tax on Food and Beverages
jakarta globe should do their research. sure, the central govt has erased 10% PPn on restaurant food and drink, but it has been replace with "pajak daerah", which is ... wait for it ... 10%.
Tue, 27 Apr 2010
JG/Confusion over 10 percent Tax on Food and Beverages
Though the government officially abolished the 10 percent value-added tax of food and beverages on April 1, businesses are still continuing to impose the additional charge, the Indonesian Consumer Protection Foundation warned on Tuesday.
Tulus Abadi, from the foundation, also known as the YLKI, blamed the government for not informing the public about the new law.
“If consumers are well informed about it, they can complain to the restaurants for still charging the tax,” Tulus told Okezone.com.
The government adopted Law No. 42, 2009, on VAT and Sales Tax on Luxury Goods (PpnBM) last year. It states that beginning April 1 this year, VAT should not be paid on commodities such as food and beverages sold in hotels, restaurants or stalls, whether it be dine-in or takeout.
Thomas Dharmawan, from the the Indonesian Food and Beverage Association (Gapmmi), said, however, that restaurant owners still had the right to charge the VAT because the government had not issued a government regulation (PP) regarding the implementation of the law.
“Most of us are waiting for the PP because we need it before we can apply the new law,” he told Okezone.com.
Tulus, however, disagreed.
“When the government said that VAT had been erased, restaurant owners should not charge consumers anymore because it’s considered illegal. Besides, who will they pay the VAT to because the law has changed,” he said.
David ML Tobing, chairman of Adamsco Public Consumer Protection Institution (LPKSM), told Kompas.com that, “The 10 percent tax could be small in amount but that’s not the point. The important thing is, consumers have the rights to complain if they are still charged with the tax that no longer exists.”
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