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        "msgid": "review-on-un-rights-declaration-not-needed-1447893297",
        "date": "1997-08-06 00:00:00",
        "title": "'Review on UN rights declaration not needed'",
        "author": null,
        "source": "JP",
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        "summary": "'Review on UN rights declaration not needed' The debate on whether the United Nations declaration on human rights needs a review surfaced during the ASEAN Post Ministerial Conference in Malaysia last week and has wide repercussions. Human rights observer Todung Mulya Lubis, shares his view with The Jakarta Post. Question: How do you see the problem? Answer: First of all, the 1948 UN Declaration on Human Rights is a historical document which is considered a milestone in world history.",
        "content": "<p>'Review on UN rights declaration not needed'<\/p>\n<p>The debate on whether the United Nations declaration on human<br>\nrights needs a review surfaced during the ASEAN Post Ministerial<br>\nConference in Malaysia last week and has wide repercussions.<br>\nHuman rights observer Todung Mulya Lubis, shares his view with<br>\nThe Jakarta Post.<\/p>\n<p>Question: How do you see the problem?<\/p>\n<p>Answer: First of all, the 1948 UN Declaration on Human Rights<br>\nis a historical document which is considered a milestone in world<br>\nhistory. It is the common standard of achievement for all nations<br>\nin the world.<\/p>\n<p>It's true that developed countries, especially the victors of<br>\nWorld War II, dominated the declaration's drafting process. There<br>\nwere almost no representatives from African, Asian or the<br>\nAssociation of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN). Only the<br>\nPhilippines government was represented at that time.<\/p>\n<p>Yet, countries like Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand and others<br>\nhave become members of the UN organization in subsequent years.<br>\nThis has, ethically and morally, shown that they accepted the<br>\ndeclaration.<\/p>\n<p>Critical remarks have been made about the declaration<br>\nincluding that it is too individualistic. It ignores existing<br>\ncultural and local values and it doesn't respect collectivity.<\/p>\n<p>Q: What do you think about those remarks?<\/p>\n<p>A: It's an exaggeration of the problem. The declaration, in fact,<br>\ndoesn't distinguish individual and collective rights. We cannot<br>\nsee it outside the historical context. The declaration has<br>\nundergone changes and enrichments.<\/p>\n<p>In nearly 50 years it has matured to an almost perfect stage<br>\nof development. It covers almost everything from civil to<br>\npolitical, economical to social and cultural rights. All are put<br>\ninto a holistic perspective.<\/p>\n<p>That's why human rights are always considered individual,<br>\nindivisible and inalienable. In this case, the collective rights<br>\nare recognized and follow the individual ones.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Could you elaborate?<\/p>\n<p>A: The right to have a healthy environment, for example, is an<br>\nindividual as well as a collective right. And so is the right to<br>\nhave peace on earth. We cannot, therefore, put a line between the<br>\ntwo rights. Of course we cannot deny that some individual rights<br>\nare given special recognition. For example, the right to live and<br>\nthe right not to be subjected to torture. No modern independent<br>\ncountry will admit that torture is something they can do.<br>\nRegardless of cultural values, torture is torture.<\/p>\n<p>It's true that in some traditional societies, torturing or<br>\neven killing people was acceptable as a defense of one's dignity.<br>\nBut, we can no longer do that. That's why I said that it's an<br>\nexaggeration to say that the UN declaration on human rights is<br>\ntoo individualistic and that it ignores cultural as well as local<br>\nvalues.<\/p>\n<p>Historically, it's true that ASEAN and African representatives<br>\nwere not involved in the first drafting process of the<br>\ndeclaration. Nevertheless, during the development and enrichment<br>\nprocess of the declaration after 1948 up until now, they are all<br>\nactively involved. There is no reason, therefore, to review the<br>\nUN declaration.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Some say that the declaration is sometimes used by the U.S.<br>\nand other developed countries to pressure the developing ones...<\/p>\n<p>A: In some cases we can see why such an accusation arises. We<br>\ncannot deny that the U.S., for example, applies a double<br>\nstandard. When it deals with certain countries, like China where<br>\nhuman rights abuses are very obvious, the U.S. becomes more<br>\n\"lenient\" in its human rights evaluation because it has a great<br>\ninterest in that country.<\/p>\n<p>In other words, the U.S. has made use of human rights-related<br>\nmatters to create economical non-tariff barriers for developing<br>\ncountries. That is what most Asian and African countries feel<br>\nabout it.<\/p>\n<p>Yet, even if this is true, it doesn't give ASEAN a moral,<br>\nethical as well as historical legitimacy to review the UN<br>\ndeclaration on human rights.<\/p>\n<p>Q: If that is the case, what should they do then?<\/p>\n<p>A: The best thing to do is make a priority list which best suits<br>\ntheir own national interests. There is no need to change the<br>\ndeclaration.<\/p>\n<p>All countries agree that they won't be able to talk about<br>\nindividual rights without taking into account the collective one.<br>\nWe cannot just say, for example, that Singapore, Malaysia and<br>\nIndonesia are more secure than the U.S. because of their<br>\ncollective security approaches. People also begin to think that a<br>\ncollective approach can sometimes disturb the individual one.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Some people see ASEAN's call for a review on the UN<br>\ndeclaration on human rights as an example of these nations trying<br>\nto make themselves different from the U.S. and other developed<br>\ncountries...<\/p>\n<p>A: The fact that some Asian countries are getting more and more<br>\ndeveloped economically gives them a newly found clout which<br>\nshould be taken into account by developed countries like the U.S.<br>\nWe, developing countries, can no longer be dictated by developed<br>\nones in many fields including the application of human rights.<\/p>\n<p>This progress will eventually lead us to differences in<br>\nopinion. Problems will emerge once we fail to handle the<br>\ndifferences wisely. That's why we have to be able to manage those<br>\nmatters carefully.<\/p>\n<p>However, I don't think there will be many leaders in these<br>\ndeveloping countries who share Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir<br>\nMohamad's idea to review the declaration.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Or perhaps the Malaysian PM was only trying to show that ASEAN<br>\ncountries can no longer be dictated by others?<\/p>\n<p>A: Definitely yes. It's quite obvious. (swa)<\/p>",
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