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        "msgid": "jp8mao-1447899208",
        "date": "2005-07-17 00:00:00",
        "title": "JP\/8\/mao",
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        "source": "JP",
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        "summary": "JP\/8\/mao Jung Chang and John Halliday were in Jakarta on July 9 as part of a global book tour to launch Mao: The Unknown Story (Jonathan Cape, June 2, 2005), which shatters the cult image surrounding the 20th-century Chinese leader, at the Periplus Bookshop in Kemang, South Jakarta. The Jakarta Post interviewed the authors on their journey into uncovering the man behind the myth.",
        "content": "<p>JP\/8\/mao<\/p>\n<p>Jung Chang and John Halliday were in Jakarta on July 9 as part of <br>\na global book tour to launch Mao: The Unknown Story (Jonathan <br>\nCape, June 2, 2005), which shatters the cult image surrounding <br>\nthe 20th-century Chinese leader, at the Periplus Bookshop in <br>\nKemang, South Jakarta. The Jakarta Post interviewed the authors <br>\non their journey into uncovering the man behind the myth.<\/p>\n<p>Investigative scholars shatter myth of Mao<\/p>\n<p>Chisato Hara<br>\nThe Jakarta Post\/Jakarta<\/p>\n<p>The in-store cafe and extra chairs set out in the Periplus <br>\nBookshop are full, and standing guests line the magazine rack to <br>\nthe rear or around book displays. At least half of the audience <br>\nis of Chinese ethnic origin, many of whom look to be in their 60s <br>\nto 70s. Shoppers from the nearby Hero supermarket stop by after <br>\ntheir errands, and guests keep trickling in throughout the <br>\nlaunch, which also marked the release of the Bahasa Indonesia <br>\nversion of Jung Chang's Wild Swans: Three Daughters of China, or <br>\nAngsa-Angsa Liar, a memoir of her upbringing in Mao's China that <br>\ntook the literary scene by storm in 1991.<\/p>\n<p>The launch and Q&amp;A session run almost an hour overtime as the <br>\nquestions keep coming from enthusiastic fans, and the authors <br>\nconsider each one equally, even those that border on academic <br>\ndebate. It is clear readers feel close to Chang because of Wild <br>\nSwans, and one asks, \"How is your mother?\" The cashier's till <br>\ndings in succession as guests purchase Mao: The Unknown Story, <br>\nWild Swans or both for an autograph. One old woman clutches her <br>\nsigned copy to her breast as she leaves the store.<\/p>\n<p>It is now late afternoon, and Jung Chang is sitting back in an <br>\narmchair in her hotel room, wearing a tunic-and-trouser set in <br>\nmint, with a deep teal silk shawl around her shoulders.<\/p>\n<p>She has not been feeling well today, suffering from some kind <br>\nof stomach ailment -- the hotel doctors have been called, and are <br>\ndue to arrive in 30 minutes or so. Nevertheless, she and her <br>\nBritish co-author husband, Jon Halliday, have been gracious in <br>\nmaking the interview.<\/p>\n<p>Chang has a mellow voice that resonates with animation as soon <br>\nas she begins to speak, and readers of Wild Swans would recognize <br>\nthe precision and evocative quality of her narration.<\/p>\n<p>\"Mao seemed the obvious subject... (since) he dominated my own <br>\nlife and dominated China,\" Chang replied as to her choosing a <br>\nbiography on Mao Zedong to follow up her memoir.<\/p>\n<p>The couple has spent the 12 years since the publication of <br>\nWild Swans researching Mao exhaustively across China and through <br>\nvarious archives -- including the Russian Foreign Ministry <br>\narchives and the independent Communist International (Comintern) <br>\narchives in Moscow -- and in speaking to over 150 people who had <br>\ndirect contact with him, from his personal laundry-woman to <br>\nformer world leaders.<\/p>\n<p>\"We went for primary sources,\" emphasized Chang, \"and used <br>\nsecondary sources only if they were verifiable.\"<\/p>\n<p>While much literature exists on the statesman who was <br>\ninstrumental in bringing China into the modern era, Chang felt <br>\nthat \"it seemed the world didn't know him ... He hadn't <br>\npenetrated into the consciousness of the general public, although <br>\nhe was as evil as Hitler or Stalin... He was responsible for the <br>\ndeaths of at least 70 million of his countrymen during his rule\".<\/p>\n<p>Halliday added, \"To be fair, earlier biographers didn't have <br>\naccess to the material we had... But it's also about asking the <br>\nright questions. How did he hold cabinet meetings? Discussions? <br>\nFor example, they don't describe how he made decisions when he <br>\nwas in power.\"<\/p>\n<p>This is the second husband-wife collaboration after Mme Sun <br>\nYat-sen (Penguin, 1986), and the historian-linguist partnership <br>\n\"worked very well\", said Chang, who holds a doctorate in <br>\nlinguistics and was the China section director for external <br>\nservices at the University of London's renowned School of <br>\nOriental and African Studies. There, she taught Mandarin and <br>\nChinese culture to businessmen and correspondents, such as those <br>\nfrom Reuters, but mostly British diplomats, for posts in China.<\/p>\n<p>Halliday's background lies in the Classics department at <br>\nOxford, where he focused on Ancient History, along with Ancient <br>\nGreek and Latin philosophy. But he is no stranger to modern Asia, <br>\nand has published books on the Korean War and modern Japan. His <br>\nfluency in several languages, particularly Russian, and his <br>\nresearch for The Artful Albanian: Memoirs (Chatto &amp; Windus, 1986) <br>\non Stalinist leader and co-author Enver Hoxha, also proved <br>\ninvaluable for Mao.<\/p>\n<p>But it was Wild Swans that opened many doors to Chang and <br>\nHalliday. The book is banned in China, \"But I'm happy that a <br>\npirated Chinese version found its way in -- I know, because a <br>\nfriend brought me back a copy,\" laughed Chang. \"So people had <br>\nread Wild Swans and knew the kind of book I wanted to write about <br>\nMao.\" If they hadn't, Chang was ready with a copy as introduction <br>\nto potential interviewees.<\/p>\n<p>Inadvertently, the Chinese government had also aided their <br>\ncourse: \"(The government) had warned Mao's inner circle not to <br>\ncooperate with us, but this had an adverse effect, because the <br>\nwarning let them know that this was not going to be a party-line <br>\nbook. They knew it was an important book...\" She also found that <br>\nmost of the interviewees, after so many years of silence, were <br>\nwilling and more than eager to tell their tales.<\/p>\n<p>Mao also attempts to go beyond a mere biography, as Chang had <br>\na vision to explain 20th-century Chinese history in a <br>\ncomprehensive manner through Mao and his relentless, pitiless <br>\npursuit of personal power.<\/p>\n<p>\"He was heartless. He cared about nothing,\" she stressed. To <br>\nillustrate, she relates the life of Mao's second wife, Yang <br>\nKaihui, who bore him two sons, and whom Mao abandoned to <br>\ndestitution. She was eventually executed by the Nationalists for <br>\nher previous connection to Mao.<\/p>\n<p>At the same time, however, \"Mao understood human emotions very <br>\nwell\", said Chang, but even this insight was used to propel <br>\nhimself toward his ultimate goal of world domination.<\/p>\n<p>The authors found that he also identified with disgraced <br>\nleaders, and felt an affinity with former U.S. president Richard <br>\nNixon and even his archrival, Chiang Kai-shek -- not because of <br>\nempathy, but because of his own fear of being deposed.<\/p>\n<p>\"In his last days, the most dominant emotion was self-pity -- <br>\nbecause he didn't achieve world domination,\" said Chang.<\/p>\n<p>Her most shocking discovery was that the Great Famine of 1958-<br>\n1961, during which 38 million Chinese people perished, was not <br>\ndue to economic mismanagement as she had long believed: Mao had <br>\ncalculated the deaths into his economic policy.<\/p>\n<p>By the end of their investigation, she came to the realization <br>\nthat Mao was \"far worse than I had thought\".<\/p>\n<p>Even so, Chang does not appear to hold any personal animosity <br>\ntoward Mao, and the most palpable emotion she and Halliday seem <br>\nto share is a blend of academic objectivity and scholarly <br>\npassion.<\/p>\n<p>\"The research was exciting in itself. And discovering new <br>\nmaterial ... (like) finding the manuscript written by Mao's <br>\nsecond wife and making historical discoveries. For example, in <br>\nthe war against Japan, (that) Mao used the Japanese to destroy <br>\nChiang Kai-shek,\" she said.<\/p>\n<p>Halliday interjects politely and is careful to specify that, <br>\nwhile Yang's manuscript was not a state secret, its existence was <br>\ncertainly \"kept secret\" by the government.<\/p>\n<p>The authors are modest about their monumental biography, which <br>\nTIME magazine referred to as \"an atom bomb of a book\" (June 13, <br>\n2005), and luck also played its part: \"We were lucky the Russian <br>\narchives were opened after the fall of Communism,\" said Halliday.<\/p>\n<p>\"We set out to write a truthful book that could stand against <br>\nthe strictest critics, a biography with a great narrative drive,\" <br>\nsaid Chang. \"And we were lucky because Mao's life was full of <br>\ndrama.\"<\/p>\n<p>How do they feel about their achievement? \"We are very <br>\npleased,\" she said. Chang is currently translating Mao into <br>\nChinese, and hopes it will be available in China -- but no word <br>\non this has been forthcoming thus far.<\/p>\n<p>There is a knock on the door, and two doctors enter. Chang <br>\nexcuses herself, extending her thanks for the interview, and <br>\nretires to an adjoining room.<\/p>\n<p>\"As a historian, (Mao) was a terrific subject,\" said Halliday. <br>\n\"He led an incredibly interesting life ... (Researching the book) <br>\nwas also a historian's dream. We made huge discoveries, accessed <br>\nthousands of pages never seen before ... It was as exciting as we <br>\ncould hope for.\" He is also ecstatic about the journey they made <br>\nthrough China: \"With Jung, I was able to travel to remote <br>\nlocations which otherwise would have been closed to me.\"<\/p>\n<p>Earlier, when asked as to why the authors had agreed to a <br>\nlaunch in Indonesia, Chang had replied, \"Because of the <br>\nintelligent and widely read Indonesian readership\" and the <br>\nhistorical connection the country holds with China.<\/p>\n<p>Halliday elucidates that Mao had an intimate relationship with <br>\nIndonesia, and was actually behind the 1965 Indonesian Communist <br>\nParty (PKI) coup.<\/p>\n<p>\"Wild Swans was a big hit in Japan, and (Japanese Communist <br>\nParty\/JCP leader) Nosaka Sanzo and his wife loved the book.\" They <br>\nwelcomed the authors eagerly, and Nosaka moved to authorize the <br>\nrelease the transcripts of former JCP leader Miyamoto Kenji's <br>\nconversations with Mao about the 1965 coup. In addition, one of <br>\ntheir interviewees was Jusuf Adjitorop, possibly the only <br>\nsurviving senior member of the PKI, who resides in China where he <br>\nwas at the time of the coup.<\/p>\n<p>\"The Chinese government has released many transcripts of Mao's <br>\nconversations with foreign leaders. It's just a suggestion, but <br>\nit would be interesting, since he is going to China, if President <br>\nSusilo Bambang Yudhoyono could ask them to release the <br>\ntranscripts between Mao and (then PKI leader) Aidit,\" he said.<\/p>",
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