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        "msgid": "indonesia-confident-to-build-stronger-relations-with-china-1447893297",
        "date": "1994-05-27 00:00:00",
        "title": "Indonesia confident to build stronger relations with China",
        "author": null,
        "source": "JP",
        "tags": null,
        "topic": null,
        "summary": "Indonesia confident to build stronger relations with China 2 cols 8 pt italic Indonesian Ambassador to China Juwana who took up his post two months ago is confident of building a stronger Indonesia-China ties as reflected in his interview with Harry Bhaskara of The Jakarta Post in Beijing recently. 1 col 8 pt As a new Indonesian ambassador in Beijing how do you see our current bilateral relations?",
        "content": "<p>Indonesia confident to build stronger relations with China<\/p>\n<p>2 cols 8 pt italic<\/p>\n<p>Indonesian Ambassador to China Juwana who took up his post two <br>\nmonths ago is confident of building a stronger Indonesia-China <br>\nties as reflected in his interview with Harry Bhaskara of The <br>\nJakarta Post in Beijing recently.<\/p>\n<p>1 col 8 pt<\/p>\n<p>As a new Indonesian ambassador in Beijing how do you see our <br>\ncurrent bilateral relations?<\/p>\n<p>Ever since we restored our ties in 1990 there has been a <br>\nsignificant improvement in our relationship and with no obstacles <br>\nwhatsoever.<\/p>\n<p>As a new ambassador I feel there has been a strong desire in <br>\nboth countries to forge stronger ties albeit inside the boundary <br>\nof \"correctness\".<\/p>\n<p>What do you mean?<\/p>\n<p>Correctness is my catch-phrase. When I submitted my <br>\ncredentials to Minister of Foreign Affairs Qian Qichen he openly <br>\ndiscussed our up and down relationship and he hinted upon taking <br>\ncareful and gradual steps toward forging a stronger relationship, <br>\nan approach analogous to those dictated from Jakarta.<\/p>\n<p>Is there any immediate agenda?<\/p>\n<p>Improvement of bilateral ties is at the top of our agenda, as <br>\na conducive political climate will contribute to stability and <br>\npeace in Southeast Asia which will be favorable for development <br>\nin both countries. Secondly, creating an economic tie that can be <br>\nbeneficial to both countries. Another important task is to kick <br>\noff progress in other spheres using the improved political and <br>\neconomic ties as a basis.<\/p>\n<p>You mentioned economic ties... could you elaborate on this?<\/p>\n<p>Our mission is to increase the volume of trade without <br>\njeopardizing our trade balance. I have conveyed this message to <br>\nboth Chinese officials and company managers.<\/p>\n<p>What products are being offered by the Chinese?<\/p>\n<p>They are offering a variety of products, especially medium <br>\ntechnology machinery which we really need for our development in <br>\nour far flung provinces, and they have plenty of them to sell. <br>\nHowever, I always remind them that selling these items should <br>\nalways be reciprocated with purchases on their part, lest our <br>\ntrade balance be disturbed. This would have an effect on other <br>\nsectors including politics and they fully understand it.<\/p>\n<p>What should we do in this respect?<\/p>\n<p>We need to boost counter-trade to prevent a possible trade <br>\ndeficit. Statistically with our trade balance with China there is <br>\na surplus in our favor, although it is a declining surplus, <br>\nwhereas most other countries' trade with China have been in <br>\ndeficit. We might follow suit in one or two years if the selling <br>\nof machinery from China is not reciprocated with more buying of <br>\nour products.<\/p>\n<p>That's the reason why I always keep in touch with Chinese <br>\nstate companies and semi-government firms which are willing to <br>\nlink their selling of their machinery with buying of our products <br>\nsuch as crude oil and plywood. But I am still in the dark as to <br>\nhow the Indonesian government will respond to it. It seems that <br>\nour government is still working out the quota for each of those <br>\ncompensation commodities.<\/p>\n<p>Although demand for these compensation commodities is high?<\/p>\n<p>The demand is high and in the absence of a direction I have <br>\nasked Chinese delegations, be it from state companies or  semi-<br>\ngovernment companies, to come over to Jakarta to hold direct <br>\nnegotiations.<\/p>\n<p>If I may come back to politics, why did the Chinese government <br>\nfeel the need to comment on the recent Medan riot?<\/p>\n<p>It was an answer by a Chinese foreign ministry spokesman to a <br>\nquestion from a Singapore journalist in a routine weekly <br>\nbriefing. The question implied that the riot was an anti-Chinese <br>\none. A foreign news agency which later carried the story had <br>\nmixed up the question and the answer.<\/p>\n<p>So, there was actually no statement from the Chinese foreign <br>\nministry?<\/p>\n<p>Yes, there was no statement. It was an answer from a question <br>\nin which the spokesman said that based on the good relationship <br>\nbetween the two countries the Indonesian government would be able <br>\nto handle whatever problem comes to the surface.<\/p>\n<p>This episode shows that there are still sensitive issues to <br>\nbe reckoned with in our bilateral ties and the Chinese government <br>\nis fully aware of this. Hence the importance of correctness in <br>\nour relationship, the ability to look at an issue in a <br>\ncomprehensive way.<\/p>\n<p>Is there any pertinent issue in the near future?<\/p>\n<p>After the normalization of our relationship the embassy has <br>\nreceived 32,000 visa applications from Chinese people to visit <br>\nIndonesia. I don't know how many Indonesians have applied for <br>\nChinese visas but one source said that it was more than 100,000.<\/p>\n<p>Immediately after I presented my credentials, I paid a visit <br>\nto the Chinese chief justice and attorney general to set up a <br>\nrapport in anticipation of a problem that might come out of this <br>\nrapid flow of people.<\/p>\n<p>Coincidentally our attorney general has just made a visit <br>\nhere and plans are afoot to set up a cooperation in the legal <br>\nmatters.<\/p>\n<p>So, this is a kind of preventive action?<\/p>\n<p>That's right. In so doing, we also have to rid ourselves from <br>\nundue suspicion (toward the Chinese) as better cooperation in <br>\nlegal matters will yield better understanding between the two <br>\ncountries, as the case of Singapore in the late 1970s has proven. <br>\nAt that time it was very difficult to get trade statistics from <br>\nthem, for example. But after a cooperation in the field of law <br>\nhad been established all went on smoothly.<\/p>\n<p>What is the purpose of the visit of the 32,000 Chinese?<\/p>\n<p>Most of them are visits by various delegations and trade <br>\npurposes. The others are family visit and tourists. However, <br>\nIndonesia has not been put in the tourist destination list by the <br>\nChinese government, although this is now in the process of being <br>\nnegotiated. But as their living standard improves more and more <br>\nChinese can afford to travel abroad. Malaysia, for example, <br>\nreceives 20,000 Chinese visitors per month primarily for trade <br>\npurposes since the country is a close trading partner of China.<\/p>\n<p>We have streamlined our visa application procedure to ensure a <br>\nsmooth process by working closely with our foreign ministry, our <br>\nimmigration department and related institutions. Yesterday I met <br>\nwith operators of 35 travel agencies which are based in Hong Kong <br>\nand China to discuss about visa application.<\/p>\n<p>Referring to the flow of people between the two countries, <br>\nwhat about the former members of the banned Indonesian Communist <br>\nParty who took refuge here since the 1960s?<\/p>\n<p>So far no one has ever showed up here. Also the issue has <br>\nnever crept up in our bilateral relations. In this case we have <br>\nto appreciate the correctness of the Chinese government.<\/p>\n<p>Or perhaps they have become Chinese citizens?<\/p>\n<p>That may be. I don't know. Or perhaps they haven't changed <br>\ntheir citizenship and become stateless, since the Chinese <br>\ngovernment also recognize stateless people.<\/p>\n<p>What about visits by Indonesian conglomerates, do they contact <br>\nthe Indonesian embassy while they are here?<\/p>\n<p>We will much appreciate it if Indonesian citizens will contact <br>\ntheir embassy while they are abroad. So far only a few of them <br>\ndrop by at the embassy. Actually, China is a large country anyway <br>\nand those who go to Shanghai, Shenshen or Guangzhou may have not <br>\ntime to come here.<\/p>\n<p>It will be helpful if they contact us or at least inform us <br>\nwhere they are because should something happens we will be held <br>\nresponsible.<\/p>\n<p>Besides, I have set up a program to invite visiting <br>\nIndonesians, be they from the government or private sector, to <br>\ngive a lecture to our embassy staff. If they have something to <br>\nshare for the improvement of our mission, why not?<\/p>\n<p>30<\/p>",
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