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        "msgid": "an-alternative-to-privatization-clean-govt-1447893297",
        "date": "2002-08-27 00:00:00",
        "title": "An alternative to privatization: Clean govt",
        "author": null,
        "source": "JP",
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        "topic": null,
        "summary": "An alternative to privatization: Clean govt Sri Wahyuni, The Jakarta Post, Yogyakarta The government's revenue target of Rp 8 trillion from privatization sales for the 2003 fiscal year has astonished many including economist Revrisond Baswir of Gadjah Mada University. Following are excerpts from last week's interview: Question: How do you see the government's new target for privatization?",
        "content": "<p>An alternative to privatization: Clean govt<\/p>\n<p>Sri Wahyuni, The Jakarta Post, Yogyakarta<\/p>\n<p>The government's revenue target of Rp 8 trillion from<br>\nprivatization sales for the 2003 fiscal year has astonished many<br>\nincluding economist Revrisond Baswir of Gadjah Mada University.<\/p>\n<p>Following are excerpts from last week's interview:<\/p>\n<p>Question: How do you see the government's new target for privatization?<\/p>\n<p>Answer: There are many factors including social and cultural ones that<br>\nthe office of the State Minister of State Enterprises has<br>\nignored. Privatization has so far been seen mainly as a business<br>\ntransaction -- resulting in resistance.<\/p>\n<p>Privatization cannot be done, in the way it is now being<br>\nconducted, especially in regard to the mandate of the<br>\nConstitution. Many, including legislators, still believe that the<br>\nConstitution requires the state's involvement in managing some<br>\npublic companies. If things like that are ignored, resistance<br>\nwill increase, not only from employees ... and that will increase<br>\nthe risk of tension.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Should an agreement on such issues be achieved before going<br>\nahead with the whole privatization process?<\/p>\n<p>A: Yes, it should. Take Article 33 (2) on essential products for<br>\npublic interest that must be in the control of the state. We<br>\ncannot just ignore this because there are many among the<br>\ncommunity that still require the state's involvement.<\/p>\n<p>At the lower level Law No 25\/2000 also gives the government a<br>\nmandate to make a law on state-owned enterprises. However, the<br>\nlaw does not exist yet. It is therefore very strange that<br>\nprivatization is held in the absence of laws on privatization as<br>\nwell as on state-owned enterprises. This is a serious problem.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Privatization is supposed to benefit the state, among others,<br>\nto prevent public companies from being cash cows for particular<br>\nvested interest groups. Your comment?<\/p>\n<p>A: That's alright but let's see the evidence. In the U.S., for<br>\nexample, big companies such as (energy firm) Enron were involved<br>\nin scandals ... The same thing happens here ...<\/p>\n<p>The superiority of private enterprises is therefore a myth.<br>\nThe problem is not in whether it is a private or a state-owned<br>\none. There are many determining factors. Whether a state-owned<br>\ncompany is corrupt depends more on the leadership.<\/p>\n<p>If we have a corrupt regime, either a private or a state-owned<br>\nfirm will be corrupt and become a cash cow too. With a clean<br>\nregime there's no chance of a state-owned firm becoming a cash<br>\ncow.<\/p>\n<p>Also, a legal basis is vital for privatization. Timing and<br>\nmethods are of no less importance. Selling anything in a crisis<br>\nsituation will result in a low price. At present, it is not a<br>\ngood time to sell anything because we are facing an economic<br>\ncrisis and a lack of trust from investors.<\/p>\n<p>The method is questionable, especially whether the ministry in<br>\ncharge of privatization is credible ... (given) suspicions of<br>\npublic companies becoming cash cows for groups with vested<br>\ninterests.<\/p>\n<p>Q: What would be your other suggestions?<\/p>\n<p>A: First, we have to look at motivations (of privatization). If<br>\n(the motive) is the deficit in the state budget, the 2001 state<br>\nbudget left some Rp 16 trillion while the privatization revenue<br>\ntarget of last year was only Rp 6.5 trillion. From this we can<br>\nsee that the state budget deficit cannot be the reason for<br>\nprivatization because not all the previous budget was spent.<\/p>\n<p>Let's see the motivation of making public companies healthier.<br>\nIf the timing is not proper while the method is not credible<br>\neither, how can we expect healthier companies? Experience shows<br>\nthat privatization is full of scandals. The selling of Krakatau<br>\nSteel and the alleged insider trading in the selling of Gresik<br>\nGroup and Indosat are examples. This also shows that the process<br>\nof privatization itself has become a cash cow for groups with<br>\nvested interests.<\/p>\n<p>Therefore, given an absence of a legal basis (for<br>\nprivatization) as well as an absence of a credible methods ...<br>\nthe best way now is to temporarily stop the whole process (of<br>\nprivatization). Then let's make ourselves free from the<br>\nintervention of the International Monetary Fund, talk about the<br>\nlegal basis, and by then we'll be ready to decide whether to<br>\ncontinue privatization. That would reduce people's resistance.<\/p>\n<p>Thus legislators should exclude the privatization revenue<br>\ntarget of Rp 8 trillion from the 2003 state budget.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Why halt privatization?<\/p>\n<p>A: Among public companies, some are profitable while others are<br>\nnot. Some are related to products in control of public interests<br>\nand some are not. If we want to sell companies on the basis of<br>\nreasons that have nothing to do with the above Article 33 of the<br>\nConstitution (which remains unamended), I don't think people will<br>\nshow resistance against the plan as it won't violate the<br>\nConstitution.<\/p>\n<p>Founding father Bung Hatta repeatedly mentioned this issue<br>\n(related to Article 33) in his speeches. Therefore, selling these<br>\nwould be a violation of the Constitution.<\/p>\n<p>Moreover, the method which they sold shares (not a majority)<br>\nin PT Semen Gresik (Semen Padang's parent company) itself was<br>\nfull of alleged practices of corruption, collusion, and nepotism<br>\n(including) the official complaint of alleged insider trading.<br>\nThis should be overcome first, because (the sale) resulted in a<br>\nvery cheap transaction.<\/p>\n<p>An interview in (the London-based daily) Financial Times in<br>\n1997 with the owner of Cemex (of Mexico that bought Semen Gresik)<br>\nquoted him as saying that it was the right time to shop in Asia.<br>\nBefore the crisis, Semen Gresik was equal to US$500 per ton<br>\ncapacity but it was only US$100 per ton capacity after the<br>\ncrisis, the owner said. But what surprised me most was that Cemex<br>\nfinally bought it at only US$47 per ton capacity. This is a clear<br>\nindication that there must be something wrong with the sale.<\/p>\n<p>What is of no less importance is that the Semen Padang case<br>\nalso has something to do with things like history, traditional<br>\ncommunity ownership (tanah ulayat), and cultural ties between the<br>\ncommunity and the company that we cannot just ignore. Therefore<br>\nif we want to be consistent with the Constitution, along with the<br>\neffort to reveal the insider trading including the cheap price,<br>\nand given the concern to the people's emotional ties, I just<br>\ndon't think selling the company will overcome the Semen Padang<br>\ncase.<\/p>\n<p>Q: Is having the state running public companies better than<br>\nprivatization?<\/p>\n<p>A: I should be very careful in replying because it very much<br>\ndepends on what kind of country and private company we are<br>\ntalking about. Taking a public company from an authoritarian and<br>\ncorrupt government and putting it into private hands would<br>\nprobably be better. But a democratic and transparent government<br>\nwould be much better than a corrupt, centralized private company<br>\nwhose headquarters are so far away from the country that it would<br>\nbe very difficult for people here to control it.<\/p>\n<p>Besides, a state-owned company can also be managed like a<br>\nprivate company. For example, the ownership is spread and it is<br>\nbound with regulations obliging it to make periodic transparent<br>\nfinancial public report in newspapers.<\/p>\n<p>I don't think it would be a problem. The advantage of making<br>\nthe state in control of public companies is that citizens would<br>\nhave the democratic rights to control the companies -- assuming<br>\nthat we have a democratic government. But that would not be the<br>\ncase if the companies become private property.<\/p>\n<p>What we should avoid is having both bad government and bad<br>\nprivate companies.<\/p>",
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